Question: From: brian stacy queen
Newsgroups: alt.consciousness.4th-way
Subject: Re: Unity
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 12:58:01 -0700

    brian stacy queen wrote:

    What a useful reply! Thank you. Can you think of the specific way to describe the two different frames of reference ie. moving center, or intellectual part of motor center? (I am thinking of a specific 4th-way term to facilitate the integration of this knowledge)

    Not really. It doesn't matter all that much, because it's easily observed whether we have a perfect technical description of ``how'' it exists or not. Briefly though, the intellectual aspects of all the centers present to us what we call generally ``mind,'' although that term as it's generally used is so unspecific as to be useless.
    Mostly what we know about is the formatory function. What is not so obvious, until it's considered, is that to map memories to the experience of this moment and present a conclusion requires a frame of reference -- or a picture of reality as I understand it so far. In other words, the ``mind'' takes memories which are associated with what I'm experiencing now (and which are unfortunately also encoded as personalities by conditioning, so each memory brings up an associated set of i's), and then assumes that this experience now is the same as that experience from memory (then), and then extrapolates the probable outcome using memory (which is called ``experience'').
    When this is not conscious, it is just assumed that this extrapolated outcome is accurate. Then a feeling is formed based on the desirability of the expected outcome. That feeling allows energy to be mobilized to take action, ``now.'' (I put now in quotes, because unfortunately the action will probably be like what I did ``then,'' and may or may not be appropriate for ``now'' because the formatory apparatus is functioning without conscious attention.)
    The frames of reference provide entirely different sets of associations for this formation. It's as though we all have access to two entirely different databases of memories. One set was created before the logical mind was developed enough to function, and the other set was created after the logical mind developed but never awakened (it is quickly put back to sleep by several very strange decisions we all make about how to get what we want out of life). Also, it must be pointed out that the first frame of reference continues growing even though the second has been started, simply because the adult mind is so rarely used. Most of us associate logic and rational thinking with the adult mind, simply because we've never learned what else it can do, having used it so rarely.
    Which of these two ``databases'' or frames of reference is queried while ``making a decision'' is dependent on so many things that it seems to us to be random (which is not at all true). Again, to generalize, we usually query the second frame of reference while on the job or working at something we have learned as an adult -- something that we perceive as a technical subject, in other words. The first frame of reference is usually queried about how to get what we want out of life.
    So most of us are pretty good at being adult about our jobs and hobbies and other such pursuits, but get childish as hell when what we're doing is about personal relationships or getting what we just ``know'' will make us ``happy.''
    Some folks build so little of a second frame of reference that they can't even ``clean up their act,'' so to speak, on the job. So they treat their job as though it were a personal relationship and seem incredibly foolish and childish and emotional (sentimental) and immature to the rest of us (even if we're just like them ;).
    So we alternate between a very childish way of seeing the world and a more adult way of seeing the world constantly, depending on whether we have been conditioned (learned) to see what is going on now as just another of the many ways to get ``happiness' or as a technical job to be performed.
    Take a look at a discussion of this subject if you have access to a browser that does frames (or if you don't want to deal with frames -- they're used for a table of contents of this chapter).
    I'll be the first to admit that it is a difficult discussion, and that the document I'm directing you to is difficult reading, so let me know if that doesn't clear it up or brings up other questions.
    If you don't have access to the Web, let me know and I'll mail a copy to you.
    An understanding of frames of reference helps turn the idea of building a soul into a technical subject that can be accomplished rather than just another interesting idea.

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